May 30, 2025

May 30, 2025

To win, move from cold to warm outbound

(3/5) Growth lessons from one of the best: Austin Hughes, the co-founder and CEO of Unify GTM and a former early growth lead at Ramp

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“What if most founders are running their outbound campaigns backward? “

Austin Hughes - Co-founder & CEO Unify GTM (>$30M raised from Thrive, Emergence, OpenAI, etc) / former growth lead at Ramp

Traditional cold outreach delivers less and less in today's saturated digital landscape as most inboxes overflow with (AI generated) pitches that decision-makers have become numb to.

Yet, customer acquisition remains the lifeblood of early-stage startups. Thus, most founders respond by increasing volume.

This is the wrong approach. Try "warm outbound” instead.

What does “warm outbound” mean?

Your best prospects leave digital footprints signaling buying readiness - for example checking your pricing page at 2am, comparing you with competitors on review sites, or downloading related content from multiple sources.

These aren't generic leads.

They're behavioral signals creating natural conversation openings. Which decay fast.

Modern buyers expect on-demand purchasing - they want what they want when they want it. Which is why Amazon spent billions perfecting one-click purchasing.

If you wait to react, the moment passes while acting within maximum 15 minutes dramatically increases conversion rates.

Now, warm outbound isn’t just about being fast.

It's also about being thoughtful about triggers: What does someone do right before they need your product? When are they most receptive to hearing from you?

Ideally, you build systems to detect these moments and respond to the right triggers the right way automatically. Success is as much about the right message as it is about the right timing for that message.

Startups who master this appear at exactly the right moment with exactly the right solution. It feels like magic to the customer.

Which is ultimately “just” smart signal detection + a lot of testing and iterating on the right messaging.

To get started, ask yourself: What are the observable behaviors that indicate someone needs what you're building?

Then build systems to watch for those signals and respond immediately when they appear.

I first heard the term ‘warm outbound’ from Austin Hughes during our podcast conversation.

If you don’t want to build these systems yourself, note that Austin’s company (Unify GTM) specializes in exactly this – helping hundreds of teams catch “warm” signals and convert them. Definitely check them out.

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